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Frequently Asked Questions (FAQS);faqs.328 BN(O) BDTC --------------------------------------------- - Retention BN(O) status can be retained BDTC status cannot be of British retained for life. retained after nationality 30 June 1997. - Validity 10 years from date of issue cannot be made valid of issue. beyond 30 VI 1997. - Replacement can be replaced both before cannot be replaced after before and after 30 VI 1997. 30 June 1997. - Right of will bear an endorsement with will be an endorsement abode with reference to the holder's stating the holder's right Hong Kong permanent ID card of abode in Hong Kong. stating his rights of abode in HK. - Special will bear the following no such endorsement. endorsement endorsement: "In accordance with the United Kingdom Immigration Rules the holder of this passport does not require an entry certificate or visa to visit the United Kingdom." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19) Do I need a passport to visit UK? Neither BDTC nor BNO passport holders require to obtain a visa in order to visit the UK for short visits. However, a visa is required if they intend to seek employment or follow a course of study. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20) Are there any short wave radio station from HK? No. but if you have a shortwave (Duan3Bo1) radio, you will hear "the Voice of Free China" (Zi4You2 Zhong1Guo2 zhi1 Sheng1) broadcasting in Mandarin, Cantonese, English, and Taiwanese (Min3Nan2Yu3), etc. In North America try listening around dinner time on 5950, 9680, 11860 kilohertz; in Europe: 21720, 17750; in Australia: 9765; in Japan: 15345, 7130, 9730, 11745. There are several other regions/languages it broadcasts to/in. Write: "The Voice of Free China, P.O.Box 24-38, Taipei, TAIWAN, R.O.C" for a schedule. (They don't also tell you the schedule of Zhong1Guang3 Xin1Wen2 Wang3*, though. But it uses the same frequencies.) [Dan_Jacobson@ATT.COM] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21) Is it cheaper to buy a PC in HK? A 486-33 system only need around HK$10000 (include 1.2M & 1.44 floppy, 120M hard-drive, and HI-Color SVGA with monitor). A 386-40 with the above config only need around HK$8000. It's about 20% cheaper than that in the beginning of this year. [Date: 7/30/92 akwy@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au (Alan Yim)] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22) How do I wire money to Hong Kong from US? 1. If you intend to go to HK, bring an ATM card from a US bank which is on the PLUS ATM network. Using a Plus ATM card, you can withdraw money directly from your US account in HK, at various ATMs of the Hongkong Bank which display the Plus symbol. Of course, if you are going yourself, you can also consider Traveller's Check or even cash if the amount is still reasonable to do so. 2. You can send the recipient a US Dollar personal check, which they can deposit with their bank. However, the check will take about 1 month to clear. 3. Go to a branch of a Hong Kong based bank in your area, eg. Hong Kong and Shanghai Banking Corp. or Hang Seng Bank in any major metropolitan area with a significant Chinese population, and purchase a Bank Draft or Cashier's Check. Enquire if they can issue drafts in HK$ drawn on their account with their HK parent. Otherwise, check if they have provisions to clear their checks quickly (eg. if deposited with a particular HK bank). 4. Of course, you can always tell your bank to initiate a wire transfer, or get a HK based bank in your area to do it (probably better, since they are used to doing it). Going the other way: a. ETC International (similar to 1. above, but subject to transaction fee) This is actually quite popular in Canada now. b. Bank Draft. Every bank in HK that issues US$ Bank Draft can draw on their accounts in the US, so worst case is 7 days to clear. Add the time to deliver the physical draft to the recipient (2 - 7 days). c. Cable/Telex/Wire transfer. Yes they are all different (in speed), and subject to service charge. Hang Seng Bank seems to charge a fixed fee for amounts up to some large number, and is probably cheapest. Note that the recipient will ALSO be charged a fee, typically USD 10 to USD 15, so if you wire $5000, they may only get $4990. This is caused by the Fed Wire Transfer between the correspondent bank (ie. the bank that, for example, Hang Seng deals with), and the receiving bank. d. Cash, USD Traveller's Checks are all okay. Special thanks to Onward Lam (onward@fsg.com) for the answers. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-299) (reserved) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 300) TOPICS: NETWORKING IN HONG KONG -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 301) Is Hong Kong University (HKU) / Chinese University (CU) / Hong Kong University of Science and Technology (HKUST) on the net? As of Sept, 91, CU has connected to Internet through a satellite link to NSFNET to a site in Hawaii. Since then, all mail enroute to HK has been routed through vaxa.csc.cuhk.hk. The MX records of all those institutes [listed above] have been changed to reflect this. Therefore, if you want to have minimum delay, let your local mailer route your mail. Or if you insist on routing it yourself, route it through hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk which is the internet gateway for ALL machines in hk or vaxa.csc.cuhk.hk. As of the latest info from HKU, they are already on the Internet. CU is now a "fullfeed" USENET site. Users can read and post news, and they are planning to distribute news to other institutions. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 302) Do they have access to SCHK? Yes. But the actual population is unknown. Someone from CU said that there are a lot more fun things to do in HK than sitting in front of the keyboard talking to a CRT. :) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 303) How to send mail to CU? You can try: <username>@vaxa.cucsc.cuhk.hk [137.189.6.8]/* Computer Service Center */ <username>@vaxb.cucsc.cuhk.hk [137.189.6.7]/* Computer Service Center */ <username>@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk [137.189.6.1]/* Computer Service Center */ <username>@pc386a.csc.cuhk.hk [137.189.6.21]/* COmputer Service Center */ <username>@cuele.cuhk.hk [137.189.32.1]/* EE Dept */ <username>@eng.ie.cuhk.hk [137.189.98.200]/* Information Engineering */ <username>@cs.cuhk.hk [137.189.4.48]/* Computer Science Dept */ To reach the Computer Science dept, you can use "dept@cs.cuhk.hk". If you have problem sending mail to CU, please contact "postmaster@cucsd.cuhk.hk". -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 304) How to send mail to Hong Kong Univ. of Science & Technology (HKUST)? You can try: <username>@usthk.ust.hk ! VMS accounts (Internet) <username>@usthk.bitnet ! VMS accounts (Bitnet) <username>@uxmail.ust.hk ! Unix accounts (Internet) If you have problem sending mail to HKUST, please contact "postmaster@usthk.ust.hk" or "postmaster@uxmail.ust.hk". [ Steven Wong (Postmaster at USTHK) CCSTEVEN@usthk.ust.hk ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 305) How to send mail to HK Polytechnics? You can try: <username>@hkpcc.hkp.hk If you have problem sending mail to Hong Kong Polytech, please contact "postmaster@hkpcc.bitnet". -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 306) How to send mail to HK Baptist College? You can try: <username>@ctsc.hkbc.hk [192.133.72.1]* /* Staff only */ <username>@bc785a.hkbc.hk <username>@bc750.hkbc.hk <username>@vaxa.ctsc01.hkbc.hk [192.133.72.4] /* telenet */ <username>@vaxa.ctsc01.hkbc.hk [192.133.72.4] /* telenet */ <username>@maths.hkbc.hk <username>@carol.comp01.hkbc.hk /* Computer Science */ <username>@ada.comp01.hkbc.hk Baptist College also gives out guest accounts, for more information please contact: Mr. Jimmy Tsang USS Section CTSC HK Baptist College 224 Waterloo Road Kowloon If you have problem sending mail to Baptist College, please contact "postmaster@ctsc.hkbc.hk". -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 307) How to send mail to City Polytechnics of HK? You can try: <username>@cphkvx.bitnet <username>@cphk.cphk.hk [144.214.4.1] <username>@cphkvx.cphk.hk [144.214.2.1] <username>@cpccspc.cphk.hk [144.214.5.254]* City Poly have a centralized mailbox for everyone. To send mail a person whose 8 digit userid is 12345678, you MUST do the following: In your message. Add these two lines: To: polylink@cphkvx.bitnet Subject: 12345678@polylink If you have problem sending mail to City Poly, please contact "postmaster@cphkvx.bitnet". -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 308) How do I send mail to HKU? You can try: <username>@hkuxb.hku.hk [147.8.16.15]* /* Computer Center */ <username>@hkucc.bitnet <username>@hkucc.hku.hk <username>@csd.hku.hk [147.8.134.1]* /* CS Dept. */ <username>@hkueee.hku.hk /* EE Dept. */ If you have problem sending mail to HKU, please contact "postmaster@csd.hku.hk". -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 309) What other network connections are there in HK? You can access Compuserve by calling 824-1121 (INFONET). They use ASYNC 0-2400 Baud (V22BIS/MNP) setting. No info about the rates. For more information, please contact: Mr. Y.S. Wu Public Services Account Manager Cable and Wireless HK Ltd New Mercury House PO Box 597 22 Fenwich St Wanchai Also, Hutchison-AT&T provides e-mail service. For more info, please contact: Helena White Hutchison-AT&T Network Services Ltd. 4/F, China Underwriters Centre 88 Gloucester Road Hong Kong 8345848 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 310) Can I send mail to HK through Fidonet? Theologically users can send e-mails to Internet via any FidoNet BBS in HongKong, however, not all SysOps made this area available to their users and only a few systems has direct connections with the US Internet/ FidoNet Gateway. Select Usenet Newsgroups is also available in FidoNet but SysOps has to pick them up from the Usenet/FidoNet Gateway in the USA. Receiving e-mail from Internet to FidoNet in HongKong is no problem becasue all these traffic will be taken care by the Zone 6 ZoneGate - a ZoneGate system is a system in FidoNet who taken care of Inter-Zone e-mails from/to it's own Zone. (Note: Zone 6 is Asia in FidoNet). From Samson Luk (gu_jc3@uxmail.ust.hk) FidoNet Regional Coordinator of HONGKONG & MACAU -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 311) Who else have connection in HK? There are a few corporations which have network connection in HK. The known ones are Digitial Computer, Xerox, Oracle, HP and SGI and IBM. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 312-349) (reserved) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 350) TOPICS: TRAVELLING, DOING BUSINESS AND RETURNING TO HK -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 351) Where can I find the lowest air fare to HK? Try some of the Chinese travel Agency and bring a Chinese friend with you if you are not Chinese. You get a better price that way. :) Also, check into the FAQ for rec.travel and it has a lot of tips on how to save your precious dollars on travel expense. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 352) Courier service, anyone? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 353) Which is a good travel book to read? One netter recommended the "Lonely Planet Guide" for HK. ISBN# 0-86442-142-7. Current edition is printed in May, 1992 and it has extensive coverage in Hongkong. Macao and Canton. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 354) What can I do in HK? Shopping. Shopping. Shopping. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 355) Where can I go in HK? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 356) Where can I shop for computers in HK? Computer Places recommended by readers: (1) Admiralty/Hoi Fu Centre, 2/F; (2) Computer Centre, at Mong Kok, a new shopping centre for computers; (3) Golden Shopping Centre, at Shum Shui Po; (4) Silver Cord Centre, basement 2, at Tsim Sha Tsui. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 357) Where can I shop for cameras in HK? Places recommended by readers: (1) Broadway - the chain stores that sell basically all the popular common items; (2) Stanley Street in Central - there are a number of stores there, unfortunately, I don't have the names with me...(may be the HK readers can help me out with those). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 358) Where can I find more information before I start the trip? You can contact the Hong Kong Tourist Association. They have offices around the world and if you cannot find one in where you live, you can contact their head quarter office in HK. The address is: 35/F Jardine House Central Hong Kong. (852)-8017111 Telex 74720 HX Cable Luyu hongkong Fax (852)-814877 Other offices: 4/F, 125 Pall Mall Wiesenau 1 London, SW1Y 5EA 6000 Frankfurt am Main 1 UK Germany (071)-930-4775 (49)-69722841 c/o Sergat Espana S.L. Suite 1220, 10940 Wilshire Bvld Apdo. Correos 30266 LA, CA 90024 08080 Barcelona USA Spain (310)-208-4582 (93)-280-58-38 347 Bay St, Suite 909 38 Avenue George V Toronto, Ontario M5H 2R7 (Entree 53 rue Francois ler 1er) Canada 75008 Paris (416)-366-2389 France (331)-4720-3954 (331)-4723-0965 (fax) c/o Sergat Italia 590 Fifth Ave. Via Monte Dei Cenci 20 NY, NY 10036-4706 00186 Roma USA Italy (212)-869-5008 (06)-6869112 333 North Michigan Ave. 4/F, Toho Twin Tower Bldg Suite 2400 1-5-2 Yurakucho, Chiyoda-ku Chicago, IL 60601-3966 Tokyo 100 USA Japan (312)-782-3872 (03)-3503-0731 4/F, HK & Shanghai Bank Bldg Level 5, 55 Harrington St. 3-6-1, Awaji-machi, 3-chome The Rocks, Sydney Chuo-ku, Osaka 541 NSW 2000 Japan Australia (06)-229-9240 (02)-251-2855 13-08 Ocean Bldg PO Box 2120 10 Collyer Quay Level 1, 5 Averill Ave. Singapore 0104 kohimarama, Auckland 5 (65)-532-3668 New Zealand (09)-521-3167 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 359) Which hotel should I book? Hotels in HK price anywhere from US$25 to $300 per night. Please check with your travel agents. The HK Tourist Association also has brochures to hotel accomodations in HK. Dan Jacobson from AT&T recommends "ChungKing mansions" in Tsim Tsa Tsui. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 360) Are there any other sources of travel information? There is a good travel guide called "Lonely Planet Guide" for HK. No ISBN#. Sorry. It should be available in all better bookstores. :) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 361) What is Hong Kong Trade Development Council (HKTDC)? Their primary mission for HKTDC is to promote Hong Kong to other countries. Below are their addresses: Conventional Plaza, 36-39th Floors, Office Towers Courvoisier Centre 1 Harbour Road 501 Brickell Key Drive Wanchai, HK Miami, FL 33131 Voice (852)-584-4333 (305)-577-0414 Fax (852)-824-0249 673 Fifth Ave 333 N Michigan Avenue 4/F Suite 2028 New York, NY 10022 Chicago, Il 60601 (212)-838-8688 (312)-726-4515 120 World Trade Center 350 S Figueroa Street 2050 Stemmons Freeway Suite 282 Dallas, TX 75207 Los Angeles, CA 90071 (214)-748-8162 (213)-622-3194 c/o HK Economic and Trade Office 180 Sutter Street, 4/F San Francisco, CA 94104 (415)-677-9038 London 828-1661 828-9976 Miami 372-9142 Milan 865405 860304 Paris 474-24150 47427744 Singapore 2937977 292-7767 Seoul 782-6115 782-6118 Stockholm 100677 723163 Toronto 366-3594 366-1569 Vancouver 685-3786 699-3784 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 362) Where is the Hong Kong Economic and Trade Office? British Embassy, 1233 20th Street British Consulate General N.W. Suite 504 680 Fifth Avenue, 22nd Floor Washington, DC 20036 New York, NY 10019 (202)-331-8947 (212)-265-8888 British Consulate General British High Commission 180 Sutter Street, 4/F Consular Section San Francisco, CA 94104 80 Elgin Street (415)-397-2215 Ottawa, Ontario, K1P 5K7 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 363) Where is the American Chamber of Commerce in HK? Chamber of Commerce of US 1030 Swire House International Division Central, HK 1615 H Street NW (852)-526-0165 or 525-9215 Washington, DC 20062 Fax 810-1289 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 364-399)(reserved) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 400) TOPICS: CDs/BOOKs/MAGAZINEs/VIDEOs -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 401) Where can I buy the lastest CDs/Books/Magazines? Try Annie.Chan@EBay.Sun.COM, she has just started a Karaoke/CD mail order outfit. No details. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 402) How do I subscribe to Chinese newspapaers? You can subscribe Sing Tao Daily by contacing: Sing Tao Limited 185 Canal St. Basement 246 Harrison Ave New York, NY 10013 Boston, MA 02111 234 W. Cermak Rd. 2/F 126 N. 10th St. Chicago, IL 60616 Philadephia, PA 19107 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 403) Is there any mail order place for these items? Not right now but some netters mentioned that they have something similar in the making and I think they will let us know as soon as they are ready. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 404) Why can't I watch HK video tapes in the US/Canada? It is because the tape from HK are recorded in the PAL format and you probably have a NTSC system. They are not compatible. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 405) What should I do when I receive a PAL tape from HK? You can convert the tape from PAL <=> NTSC by contacting some service company. In US, There are two that are recommended by the SCHK netters: DAKE International SOMI International 3208 Foxboro Dr. 50 Summer St. Richardson, TX 75082 Edison, NJ 08820 (214)-234-8518 (908)-548-3065 INTERNATIONAL VIDEO CONVERSION 520 Harvest Lane Raleigh, NC 27606-2217 (919) 233-8689 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 408-449)(reserved) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 550) TOPICS: GATHERINGS/LOCAL GROUPS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 551) Anybody out there from XYZ Secondary School? We often see posting from SCHK netters looking for lost classmates. Michael Yip from Digitial Equipment Corporation had spent considerable amount of time and effort to compile a high school list which he post very regularly. If you have missed the last issue, you can contact him at "yip@wsl.dec.com". -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 552) How can I start an e-mail alumni association? Check with the High School List first before you start. There is a slight opportunity that such a mailing list is already available. here is the known alumius list: a) Cheung Sha Wan Catholic Secondary School, email John Ho, john@jho.com for details. b) Choi Hung Est. Catholic Secondary School, email Dominic Ng cstdxek@csv.warwich.ac.uk for details. c) Ho Lap College, email Johnny Chow vcsc335@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu for details. d) Lutheran Middle Sch, email Johnny Chow vcsc335@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu for details. e) Maryknoll Convent School, for enrollment (both alumnus and others), mail to Elizabeth Luk achiever@u.washington.edu f) Queen's College - mail to qcnet@athena.mit.edu for details. g) St. Francis Xavier School, TW - mail to Thomas Kwan nkkwan@descartes.uwaterloo.ca for enrollment. h) SPCC 88 (cert year) - mail to hkspcc88@athena.mit.edu for distribution. i) Tin Kwong Rd Govt Sec Sch - email Edward S.N.Chiu chiu@cs.unr.edu for details. j) WYCHK - mail to wychk-request@kccs.com for details. k) WYK - mail to John Chiu chiu@ccsf.caltech.edu for enrollment. l) Diocesan Boys' School has a DBSnet for DBS old boys. To register, send a hello email to <dbs-admin@athena.mit.edu>. m) HKTA Student Ambassador - mail to Albert Pang at albert@brahms.insl.mcgill.ca for details. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 553) Are there any local gathering groups? In Dallas, Texas, you can get in touch with John Ho at john@jho.com. The SCHK Texans get together for Dim Sum, Karaoke, BBQ, eat and plain BS. Tons of fun. Everyone welcome. In San Jose, California. You can contact the Club Bauhinia (CB) - "Care H K" group in the San Jose area. They are an associate member of AHKCUS. They print booklets about HK and help HK students in Univsity of California at Berkely to publish booklets and stage their HK Week. They also participate in slide shows about HK etc. For further information, please contact Dennis Lee albee@eng.sun.com. In Bay area, you can contact the BAGgers - (Bay Area Gethering) They hold semi-regular gatherings for fun in the Bay Area e.g. BBQ, Bowling, fishing, rafting etc. And they have a regular soccer game every other week. There are usally 20 to 30 players. For more information, please contact Nelson Chan at Nchan@hpcupt1.hp.com or Lawrence Chow lawrence.chow@eng.sun.com. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 554-699)(reserved) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 700) TOPICS: LEGENDS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 701) Who is Deanna? During (what month?) of 1991, in response to all those usual "looks + intelligence = constant" silly talks, a student called Deanna from University of Pittsburgh posted a message claiming "I am pretty and witty." This bold assertion stunned the hitherto male-dominated schk and Deanna became the Marilyn Monroe of schk overnight. More than 100 articles were posted in a few days and a See_Deanna_Club was eventually formed. Deanna has left Univ of Pittsburgh since but she left with us a very fond memory of hi-tech romance. Thank you Deanna. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 702) Who is Jan? Jan is a Yale student with unknown gender. In May, 1992, After series of claims of a lonesome male from HK who has the voice of Jackey Cheung, the look of Andy Lau, and the smile of Leon Lai. Jan suddenly identifies HIMSELF as a HERSELF. Later on, Jan announced this whole event was indeed HER on going experiment conducted by the Department of Psychology in Yale University. People were mad and some even send letter to the Dept. chair to complain about the so-called experiment as unethical. Later, Jan turned into a HE and tried to defend HIS and HER position. Today, Jan's identity remains a mystery. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- John Ho from Dallas, Texas USA. (john@jho.com) Xref: bloom-picayune.mit.edu soc.culture.hongkong:31271 soc.culture.china:95434 soc.culture.taiwan:32502 news.answers:4750 Path: bloom-picayune.mit.edu!enterpoop.mit.edu!hri.com!ukma!gatech!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ames!olivea!uunet!psinntp!jho!root From: john@jho.com (John Ho) Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,news.answers Subject: soc.culture.hongkong FAQ, Part II Summary: This posting contains a list of Frequently Asked Questions (and their answers) on Chinese Computing. It should be read by anyone who would like to learn about Chinese Computing. Message-ID: <schk2_725000404@jho.com> Date: 22 Dec 92 05:00:18 GMT Expires: 4 Feb 1993 05:00:04 GMT References: <schk1_725000404@jho.com> Sender: root@jho.com (0000-Admin(0000)) Reply-To: john@jho.com Followup-To: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan Organization: JHO Company, Dallas, Texas USA Lines: 944 Approved: news-answers-request@MIT.Edu Supersedes: <schk2_722408403@jho.com> Archive-name: hongkong-faq/part2 Last-modified: Sun Aug 23 17:42:31 EDT 1992 Version: 2.1 O F F I C I A L FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS (FAQ) FOR SOC.CULTURE.HONGKONG PART II - CHINESE COMPUTING Please contact me if you are the original author of any of the question/answer I use in this FAQ. I would like to give the credit back to the original author where it belongs. Also, I am looking for someone who will take care of this portion of the FAQ for me. If you would like to volunteer, please contact John Ho at "john@jho.com". For now, if you have any questions regarding addition/deletion/modification to this FAQ, please contact me at "john@jho.com". Your comments will be appreciated. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------